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I was wondering if it would be possible/allowed to play a game following the TI4 rules, using the TI3 vassal module.

It might be doable I think, but some items would be hard get done and might be confusing.
I wrote down all the things and ordered them from easy to fix to hard :

Easy to manage
Rae Sheets : write down the exact race sheets in a rules thread, just use the module version for the graphic
Trade Goods : use PCTG for commodities, TG as usual
Strategy Cards : write down the exact race sheets in a rules thread, just use the module version for the graphic


Medium to manage
Missing Secret Objectives : manage secret objectives by forum.
Public Objectives : trim the objectives deck


Very Annoying
Planet tiles / cards : TI4 uses all the systems of vanilla TI3, with apart from two systems the exact same resource/influence values. However all technology bonuses have been replaced.
Action / Political cards : Trim the existing deck as well as possible. Some AC/PC will be missing, too bad
Technology cards : this will be annoying, no idea yet how to manage


Conclusion : why hasn't anyone started working on a web based TI4 yet? :P

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October 18th, 2017, 10:52 am
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evernoob wrote:
I was wondering if it would be possible/allowed to play a game following the TI4 rules, using the TI3 vassal module.

It will definitely be allowed but of course the same restriction for posting AC and PC text applies as for TI3. I agree that it should be possible to do this with the TI3 module for now.

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Conclusion : why hasn't anyone started working on a web based TI4 yet? :P

I really wish I had the time for this. I'm curious what the status of ti3.io is. It shouldn't be too hard to make a web app for playing both TI3 and TI4 at the same time. The differences really come down to a few settings and loading different asset files and deck lists.

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October 19th, 2017, 9:03 am
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A Vassal extension for the missing SO/AC/PC cards would not be very difficult to make. We do it for the Shattered Ascension extension. I could potentially do it, but I don't have TI4, so I would not know which cards to add (would need full text for public/secret objectives and card titles and counts for ACs and PCs).

Adding any planetary systems would be possible as well. It requires graphics to be made/imported though, and I definitely don't have time for that.

I agree with the above that a web module would be a better long term solution though!


October 19th, 2017, 2:35 pm
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Marsman57,

I'm willing to provide you with any information required.
Just hit me up in PM!

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I'd also be happy to help provide any TI4 information needed. I'd love to see TI4PBF become a thing :)


December 24th, 2017, 4:04 pm
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I had some great information sent over in the fall. I have not had time to really devote to the site unfortunately. I have played TI4 in person though and it is pretty great!


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I am really rusty on the php/asp front, but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.

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looking forward to playing the fourth edition on here. Marsman, keep on the good work!


May 11th, 2018, 12:06 pm
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Just chiming in to say that I'm also looking forward to TI4PBF. 4th has already been a significant improvement on the best game ever and I'd love to get in more games with it!


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As people may have noticed, I'm currently not super active on here anymore because things seem to have slowed down over the last half year or so. So I also wanted to chime in that I'll definitely support any efforts to get TI4PBF running on here, though I don't have time to create a module/platform myself.

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